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Post by Suzie on Apr 16, 2008 11:52:43 GMT
Knowing that we have a few non-pagan members in the society, I'd be interested in asking them a few questions - mostly along the lines of: What interests them in KUPOS apart from the pagan side? What do they believe (if anything) which isn't pagan? Why did they join the society? Do they feel alienated at all by the pagans in the society? What are their general feelings towards paganism? All of this is geared towards making a wider, more inclusive society, finding out what works and what doesn't. There are no right and wrong answers and no-one's gonna be ostracised. So please reply
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Post by john on Apr 16, 2008 15:18:28 GMT
What interests them in KUPOS apart from the pagan side?
Was hoping when it started that it'd be a way of meeting people who were interested in practical occult work and group operations.
What do they believe (if anything) which isn't pagan?
93 93/93
Why did they join the society?
See above! Jack made a thread about it on the krap forum back in the day and I thought it sounded like a good idea
Do they feel alienated at all by the pagans in the society?
Yeah. Suzie and both Ians have similar interests but overwhelmingly, I think there's too much fluff paganism that has nothing to do with anything, other than running round the woods in a mass hysteria, getting scared of shadows and talking about pixies.
What are their general feelings towards paganism?
Utter fluff rubbish. I respect everyones right to hold their own beliefs but I have zero belief in the existance of hobbits and Thor. I would take paganism seriously if i'd ever met a serious pagan.
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Post by hordriss on Apr 16, 2008 17:14:01 GMT
What interests them in KUPOS apart from the pagan side? Was hoping when it started that it'd be a way of meeting people who were interested in practical occult work and group operations. What do they believe (if anything) which isn't pagan? 93 93/93 Why did they join the society? See above! Jack made a thread about it on the krap forum back in the day and I thought it sounded like a good idea Do they feel alienated at all by the pagans in the society? Yeah. Suzie and both Ians have similar interests but overwhelmingly, I think there's too much fluff paganism that has nothing to do with anything, other than running round the woods in a mass hysteria, getting scared of shadows and talking about pixies. What are their general feelings towards paganism? Utter fluff rubbish. I respect everyones right to hold their own beliefs but I have zero belief in the existance of hobbits and Thor. I would take paganism seriously if i'd ever met a serious pagan. LMAO, you make us sound as bad as the most haunted crew. I'm a serious pagan for ya, and I even know some occult stuff so if you do want a chat at a social I'm more than up for it
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Post by Suzie on Apr 16, 2008 23:40:52 GMT
Its OK Jack, we need to encourage more people to speak out with their views about the society. I agree we need to make it a bit more Occultist oriented, perhaps we should do something geared more towards that.
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Post by hordriss on Apr 17, 2008 12:49:43 GMT
True, although to be fair we have never ran round the woods in a mass hysteria, even when Joe walked into the lake lol.
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Post by sena on Apr 17, 2008 12:50:20 GMT
Gotta agree with Suz on that one. The society was specifically named with Occultism in mind so we should definately branch out towards it a bit more
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Post by Suzie on Apr 17, 2008 14:02:04 GMT
True, although to be fair we have never ran round the woods in a mass hysteria, even when Joe walked into the lake lol. Speak for yourself.
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Post by hordriss on Apr 18, 2008 2:20:16 GMT
Gotta agree with Suz on that one. The society was specifically named with Occultism in mind so we should definately branch out towards it a bit more True, but we can't help the fact that there aren't many occultists in the society, we can't make people discuss it if they don't want to.
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Post by Suzie on Apr 22, 2008 0:54:26 GMT
Yeah, I was pondering this.
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Post by dervysh on Oct 8, 2008 17:51:17 GMT
What interests them in KUPOS apart from the pagan side? The word occult caught my attention. What do they believe (if anything) which isn't pagan? I believe on everything, and nothing, pretty much as it suits me. Yes, I'm one of those. Why did they join the society?Same reason I'd join any society - to talk to (hopefully) interesting people. Do they feel alienated at all by the pagans in the society?I don't think so...but it would depend on whether the said Pagans are trying to make the non Pagans feel alienated, which I don't believe will happen. What are their general feelings towards paganism?I don't think I really have a feeling - it's hard to hold a personal opinion on someone else's faith or spirituality. If it works for someone and it's something which lets them grow spiritually/mentally, that's great. Fluffy bunnies, on the other hand...well, I have a fairly low tollerance for anything like that. But I'll try be good, honest.
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Post by hordriss on Oct 9, 2008 16:52:26 GMT
I'm a believer in everything too, extending to Christianity, Hinduism, Paganism, Taoism, the whole lot, all just as real to me as anything, I have simply selected certain elements to refine my own path.
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Post by Question on Oct 16, 2008 16:06:35 GMT
What interests them in KUPOS apart from the pagan side? Occultism in general has a vivid selection of ideals and beliefs each as beautiful as the last. In particular are things like psychic abilities, types of magi, forteanism, astrology and esoteric philosophy.
What do they believe (if anything) which isn't pagan? I believe in most of the stuff I've said that I'm interested in. I believe that people have a chance to be psychic and that energies exsist beyond reason to say for example
Why did they join the society? Because of the letter 'O'. Why I've been intrested in the letter 'O' is a long and confusing story
Do they feel alienated at all by the pagans in the society? Not really everyone has the right to their believes, just that the pagans have other pagans to discuss their believe more understandingly to
What are their general feelings towards paganism? It makes more sense than most things that people believe, in my mind.
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Post by hordriss on Oct 17, 2008 18:00:51 GMT
I love how there's an assumption, in the questioning, that paganism is some how offensive to occultists lol. Funny how a reverse polarity thread has not appeared in the pagan section... lol.
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Post by Suzie on Oct 18, 2008 11:00:39 GMT
I love how there's an assumption, in the questioning, that paganism is some how offensive to occultists lol. Funny how a reverse polarity thread has not appeared in the pagan section... lol. *facepalm* - Because there are far more pagans than there are occultists in the society, so I was concerned about them feeling alienated or ambiguous towards the society. - There is no assumption that paganism is offensive to occultists. The questions are in fact, totally neutral. I can see absolutely nothing in them which is 'against' paganism. - I thought it might be a good place to start with finding more occult-based things to do. And now that we have a room in Chancellor's, this is becoming obviously more and more plausible. - I'm trying to give back to members, not just provide a voicing point for my own opinions about everything to do with what I believe. That's what being in the committee is about. Sorry if you were 'offended' by my questioning. You can create a reverse polarity thread in the pagan section if it will make you feel better.
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Post by hordriss on Oct 18, 2008 18:20:51 GMT
I did include lolz to indicate I was joshing.
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